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Why is it only foreigners who should get blocked then? Does that make sense?

That is the only way it is legal. This was an export directive from the Commerce department, using authority granted by Congress to control exports of tech. If they just told Anthropic to shut down a model without invoking an emergency order of export, there would be no legal authority for such an order.

Keep in mind that for all the troubles and trauma caused by the current USA government, they are really good at manipulating the legal system to get their way. This is just another example of it.


Ok, but then the government's argumentation doesn't make sense? If the reason for shutting it down is that it's dangerous, only shutting it down for non US citizens doesn't solve the problem.

This sort of thing has been done before - for encryption - and many physical products like missiles. If you sell a missile to someone in the US they're accountable to US law but if you export one then US law stops at the border and nothing stops them firing it at Washington with impunity.

But foreigners in the country are effected as well.

You'd need to relocate all employees and close all offices in the US. I don't know any Anthropic employees, but I guess their moral has limits and they would never do that. They would also lose valutable time and fall behind openai during that time.

I mean it should be clear to everyone that this is just the consequence of Sam Altman's lobbying activities.

These guardrails are solely a reason for using your data for training purposes. Every flagged message can be used for training.

This sounds backwards, any interrupted conversation becomes less useful for training.

> We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class models, on both first- and third-party surfaces. We won’t use this data to train new Claude models, or for any non-safety-related purpose

Whatever problem we might have with them, they explicitly say that they do not do this in the launch post.


"We won’t use this data to train new Claude models"

What about non-Claude models?


"Introducing our latest model, CIaude, spelled with a capital "i" and legally distinct from Claude!"

If they can train the classifier to have fewer false positives that would be great.

why would they? This safety stuff is a money maker & wealthy elite corporation solidifier.

This is the take off of the 'permanent underclass'; Anthropics safety delusion will enshittify very nicely for the rich and powerful.


this reasoning is inverted lol they would get a lot more information by letting you use it. so much weird drama around reasonable guardrails for an experimental model

I'd expect that everything they see gets used for for training purposes (and data mining in general) regardless of if it's flagged or not. It'd take a whistleblower for you to ever find out either way.

If we're doing conspiracy theories what if fable is really dumb and not better than opus and the guardrails hide that nicely. Meanwhile the hype train keeps chugging.

So they use this "suspicious behavior" as a reason to train on our data.

I'm very suspicious as they sent out an "We're updating our Privacy Policy" email right before the launch. I fear they try to take advantage of their market position by doing things with user data no other company could do because they know users don't have another choice.

Prob related to this part of the blog post:

> We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class models, on both first- and third-party surfaces. We won’t use this data to train new Claude models, or for any non-safety-related purpose, and we’ve instituted new privacy protections including logging all human access to the data and ensuring its deletion after 30 days in almost all cases (see this post for further details). The data will help us defend against complex and novel attacks (including new jailbreaks and attacks that operate across many requests) as well as help us identify and reduce false positives.


It's a specific change: For safety evaluation, Fable data will be retained for the initial period notwithstanding prior opt-out

I don't think they deserve your sympathy. I don't think there is an employee there that couldn't find another great job somewhere else.

It seems to me the max memory you can buy in a laptop stagnated for the past 3 years or so.


And the max storage in pre-built computers has stagnated at 2010 levels (~1TB). This was first due to the switch to the much more expensive and much faster charge trap flash. In the 2020s it finally started to approach 2010 sizes in pre-builts but then the corporate finance wars re: fab capacity happened.


I have always felt insulted that most laptops even offer a low 4 GB of RAM I rather take 16 GB in previous gen memory


My several years old laptop has 128GB of RAM, is that not enough? I admit that it's a pretty heavy one.


for the most part, unless soldered down, it has been hard to find higher than dual channel (maybe quad for a massive odm gaming laptop). each stick and platform having set maximum memory capacity has put a glass ceiling for those machines.

doesn't matter anyway when things are not reasonably priced. i am stuck at the same memory capacity in my personal system for the better part of two decades, partially due to the above and the current pricing today.


Why is it even necessary to save this data in the cloud?


How do you expect them to read it?


On my phone. I assume they get to the cloud via my phone in the first place anyway.


It's essentially a new napster.


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