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Errr you just responded to someone that is offshore and is using AI to be much cheaper than local talent.

Googly started showing sublinks into my site when I added json ld. So that was cool.

This was in Denmark

You can own guns in Denmark as well.

That's all besides the point.

The platform risk for people outside the US using US based AI products is enormous, as we just learned when Fable got yoinked.

Yes, that's what was said basically. The pedantry is not adding anything to the conversation.

I don't think you can even say that without reading the actual announcement. [0]

Was the acquisition "effectively announced months ago"? or was it the right to acquire the company or pay $10 billion that was announced months ago?

It would be equally relevant if it went the other way. But clearly both of you are confused on what was said they would do in the future (which that was the announcement months ago) vs what are doing today.

[0] https://www.reuters.com/technology/spacex-says-it-has-option...


My sense is that enterprises are extremely cautious. They like everything that is already common and hr friendly. They abhor anything that might be seen as divisive and controversial. That's why they're currently going with Anthropic and not Openai or Xai or anything Chinese. It's the smaller actors that are using everything but Anthropic. Anthropic got that safe enterprise bland vibe. The only pr trouble Anthropic is in is with saying no to the military, which just makes them even more enterprise safe. Meanwhile Sam Altman and Elon are out there freaking out the enterprises almost every day it seems like.

Fable got halted by US make it a moot point but none enterprise is happy about the forced (and unannounced) 30-day data rentention

To be fair, the retention is only for Fable. I agree though, I don't even use Claude at work, but I noped out of touching Fable when I read that.

The Earendil guys are European and very sane. Zero sf vibes from them.

I used 80% of my 5h anthropic usage window on a code review using fable. I tried this twice on two different feature implementations. Same result.


Oh wow deepseek is on par in usage with anthropic: https://openrouter.ai/deepseek

Deepseek has been on a growth spurt recently. Openai is at half and looks almost flat in comparison to anthropic and deepseek.


Is it that surprising given Deepseek is great enough for most use cases (like implementation) and prices are off by an order of magnitude?

DeepSeek: DeepSeek V4 Flash $0.098/$0.196 DeepSeek: DeepSeek V4 Pro $0.435/$0.87

v/s

Anthropic: Claude Haiku $1/$5 Anthropic: Claude Sonnet $3/$15 Anthropic: Claude Opus $5/$25

Many people (me included) sometimes use Opus-class models to plan then swap to Deepseek and/or local models for implementation. The real AI war is in the pricing/performance ratio, and it doesn't look like any of the US-based models are winning on that front.


Just because I don't personally know anyone using deepseek. I'm in northern europe. I can imagine there's a big huge chunk of the world that is priced out of using openai or anthropic, and I'm blind to it because of where I am.

I can use DeepSeek in 80% of my tasks. Let's see how the latest kimi 2.7 helps, because this is even cheaper than deepseek, and supposedly even better. So far it's not worse.

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