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Agreed. I've seen local officials convicted of misusing an offical credit card for groceries and other personal purchases, even though they paid everything back and there was no "loss" to the taxpayers. But they were still misusing public credit for personal benefit.

Of course it was a pretty clear pattern of usage over time, not a one-time thing that could be explained as accidental.


Paying back a victim, or "making them whole" is part of required restitution, but it's not adequate as a deterrence. If all I have to do is pay back my victims, there's very little disincentive to keep trying my schemes until I "win."

Loss of freedom is ultimately what will reform a criminal, if reform is possible.


>Loss of freedom is ultimately what will reform a criminal, if reform is possible.

I don't believe that is correct. In fact there's pretty good research to suggest that custodial sentences inrcease recidivism. This does not really apply to the SBF case, but I shall elaborate for the general case.

There are far more burglars in their 20's than in their 50's. The predominant characteristic amongst people over the age of 50 being convicted of burglary is previous jail time for burglary.

Research has shown the single most reliable way to reform a criminal is to let them get older without going to jail, and to a lesser extent gaining a criminal record. People are far more often criminals by circumstance than by nature.


> the single most reliable way to reform a criminal is to let them get older without going to jail

I think it’s just getting older. If they’re a recivifism risk, locking them up until they’re older can be argued to serve the public good. If they’re not, you’re right, don’t jail them. The argument is essentially against short prison sentences; either find another way to punish or commit to locking them up until they’re 60.


I don't think that is supported by the evidence. A custodial sentence can counteract any benefits of age because it isn't the age itself that matters, it's the increased life experience.

Subjecting people to a fairly brutal environment for that time provides a completely different set of experiences.

The long standing dichotomies of crime management is whether reduced crime is more, or less important, than justice. On top of this is is punishment retribution, deterrent, rehabilitation, or mere isolation.

Many people disagree on these points. Some refuse to acknowledge the possibility that some of the goals might be in conflict.


> it isn't the age itself that matters, it's the increased life experience

I’ll track down the paper, but I don’t think this is true. Older people are just less criminally inclined. Across the board.


> Loss of freedom is ultimately what will reform a criminal, if reform is possible

The goals of penal sanctions are “retribution, deterrence, incapacitation, and rehabilitation” [1].

Bankman-Fried is a sociopath. He isn’t going to be rehabilitated, his continuing pursuit of a pardon proves that. The benefits in jailing him are mainly in the first three: retribution, deterrence and incapacitation.

[1] https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/LSB/HTML/LSB1...


Trump himself supported Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2008.

Not sure how that's relevant. Trump does whatever Trump thinks is good for Trump. I'm sure his support of Clinton back then made sense to him, as did shifting far right several years later.

If he thinks accepting money from SBF will be good for him, he'll do it. If not, he won't. I suspect SBF is going to be left out in the cold, though, so Trump can say he's tough on white-collar crime, while pardoning the Binance guy and so many other rich fraudsters.


I was responding to the implication that SBF's association with the Clintons was a reason he would not get any favors from Trump. Trump has had a lot of associates on the D side of the ballot over the years, pretty much unavoidable if you're a wheeler-dealer in New York.

Why would Trump's previous associations with the Democratic party prevent him from spiting someone else's associations with the Democratic party? That would require he not be a complete hypocrite. On the other hand, associating SBF with the Democrats makes them look bad. Why pardon an albatross around the neck of your enemies?

Not until 2028 anyway, depending on outcomes...

The census isn't for helping the country make any decisions other than determining the number of representatives and apportionment of taxes. It should not be collecting any data that isn't necessary for that.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-1/section-2...

> The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.

The key thing you're missing is "in such Manner as they shall by Law direct".

Congress has passed a whole bunch of laws that attach additional responsibilities to the census for the purpose of supporting government decisions.

The Permanent Census Office Act of 1902 for example, which established the census office and tacked on "an annual survey of cotton production, and other economic censuses" https://www.census.gov/about/history/historical-censuses-and...


That's not true, they also wanted to get an understanding of who they were governing.

But why is the census asking about those attrbutes at all. The Constitution requires a count. That's it. A number. We don't need to know the rest of it, or if we do, it should be surveyed separately with voluntary participation.

> We don't need to know the rest of it, or if we do, it should be surveyed separately with voluntary participation.

But we do. A detailed census is essential for making good policy. For example, knowing the age and distribution of children across the country helps local and state governments decide where to put the next school or children's hospital. The federal govt. allocates funds for education and daycare accordingly.

The census is the best and most important measure of govt. policy. Taking it away would leave everyone worse off.


The risks of abuse are too high and historically proven to happen eventually. There are many other ways to determine where schools and hospitals are needed, such as aggregate enrollment and admission statistics.

>There are many other ways to determine where schools and hospitals are needed, such as aggregate enrollment and admission statistics.

You do realize there are places where there aren't schools or hospitals?


Local school districts know where they need more or fewer schools. This sort of thing isn't any business or responsibilty of the federal government at all.

The census is already voluntary LOL. So we’d have two censuses?

Census participation is not voluntary. Failure to provide complete or accurate data is, in theory, punishable by a fine. Last census, I intentionally provided incomplete data on the web form, which resulted in a person with a clipboard and some stern questions showing up at my door.

And since big-name companies will be dealing with this, nobody will get blamed for not seeing this train barreling down the tracks towards them.

Philosophy and history majors are for people who have no idea what they want to do. So a decent job in any field is as good as any other.

CS majors are working towards employment in a specific sector, and aren't likely to accept anything else very readily.


It should run as a separate user account with its own home directory. Not with access to your personal browser profile.

What does setting this up look like? Qemu vm and run there? How do you interface with version control and deployment?

Never knew that tapping the back of the phone did anything. Yet another Apple convention you only discover by accident?

More like an accessibility setting that has widespread utility (there are several others, e.g. iOS has built-in background noise generators in accessibility)

That said, tapping on the back of the phone didn’t register consistently enough for me to utilize. I tried setting flashlight to that action. When I wanted it to work it wouldn’t. Then when I would be absentmindedly tapping it would activate.


It’s an “accessibility” feature. You can assign an action to double and triple tap. But it’s very inconsistent. It doesn’t work half the time and it will trigger randomly if you move your phone funny.

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