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If you’re still writing things like this you are stupid or willfully ignorant. All the boomers at work expose similar opinions and it’s because when the younger generation tries to explain why they feel this way, the boomers stick their fingers in their ears and start yelling.


It really, deeply hurts me that someone stupid enough to write this can probably vote.


I am 47 and I indeed voted in many elections.

I still insist on my opinion that hatefulness tends to be a generalized condition of human soul, and that it can be re-chanelled to a different target quite quickly. I yet have to meet a very selective hater who would otherwise be a kind person.

(Absolute extremes like "liberating Bergen-Belsen" do not count, but the vast majority of people living in the West has never encountered anything as extreme in their lives.)


If you truly, genuinely believe that someone making mean comments about AI online means their soul is inherently corrupted then you’re fucking stupid, I don’t know what else to say. Stop going online and go moisturize your soft hands, it will only get worse once you go beyond this thread.

EDIT: Holy shit, I didn’t even read your sibling comment, where you make vague hand gestures towards the anti-semitism and the Holocaust. Bravo, you got me I guess, because this has to be trolling, no human being is this fucking retarded.


Whoa, don't move the goalposts so fast. A few mean comments is nothing; persistent hatred, which I witness on forums, is something else.

Precisely because I have been online for 30 years, I know how productive this is: zero. More precisely, this way of emoting/thinking gets lousy populists elected, like Trump.

"Holy shit, I didn’t even read your sibling comment, where you make vague hand gestures towards the anti-semitism and the Holocaust. Bravo, you got me I guess, because this has to be trolling, no human being is this fucking retarded."

You have an anger problem, that is all.

It is the 80th anniversary of the big judicial processes against important Nazis, and I spent last days listening to some historic records from the contemporary radio. Of course my mind wanders in that direction.

But I also noticed that the prosecutors and the judges were calm and professional, even when dealing with the worst offenders against humanity. No mindless rage and hate and screaming and vitriol; why, too?

In a contrast, someone can work up themselves into a cursing shitstorm during a banal discussion on a tech forum, hmmm. What a diversity in personalities, and guess which ones are more mature and respect-worthy.

"fucking stupid ... fucking retarded"

You know what I find, uh, not smart? Hating any technology, AI included. It is just a thing that can be wielded for good and for bad. Much like electricity: you can use it to warm your home or you can use it to torture inmates in a prison.

Imagine someone walking around hating electricity, because Jack Welch was a bad guy and it also destroyed jobs of untold candlemakers. Even you would probably laugh at that figure, impotently cursing and spitting at every LED light, and call them something from your "arsenal of charming words for strangers".

Anyway AI is here and you will likely have to interact with it in the future; much like e-mail and smartphone, it is not going anywhere anytime soon. Hating it won't help you a iota.


> More precisely, this way of emoting/thinking gets lousy populists elected, like Trump.

Yup, it's a troll.


It is mind boggling that so many people, like you, are here defending being hateful. And it's no surprise you are being hateful while doing so too. Why do you think we would be interested in your toxic nonsense? It's not like you have actual arguments or anything like that. Next time just fuck off.


Bwahaha, make me. And looking at your comment history, its not like you have anything valuable to say either, so consider stones, glass houses, etc.

Have you considered there’s a reason AI companies and their fans have attracted so much hate? Gosh, it couldn’t be anything they did or said, could it?

Vitriol is a natural human response to stupidity, injustice, and short-sightedness. I don’t owe you politeness because you said something stupid on the Internet.


Toxic person uses any excuse to be toxic, more breaking news at 11.


You know a comment like this is an admission that I have a point, right?


Absolutely not, it's a display of you not understanding my argument which spawned this comment chain.


No, it is just seeing what you don't want to admit to yourself.


This is the third or fourth time today I’ve seen someone say “AI is just a tool” and it’s the most brain dead argument, I just simply can’t believe people think like this.

Guns, cars, knives, explosives, dangerous chemicals, etc. are all tools. They’re just inanimate things that have the potential for massive (potentially lethal) consequences. You can argue that malware or nuclear reactors or chainsaws are “just tools” and it doesn’t make them any less dangerous in the wrong hands.

People who say “Well AI is just a tool” are at best being pedantic, and at worst trying to recast valid concerns as fear mongering


>doesn’t make them any less dangerous in the wrong hands.

what do you think my comment said you halfwit.


Definitely not that


I like both Jeff and Apple products, but this does seem a pretty ... odd ... thing to say within the context of his audience. A normal person wouldn't bat an eye but the kind of people watching Jeff Geerling videos will probably have some strong opinions about it


We get it, you think you’re better than everyone else


Nope. I'm also an addict, but aware of it rather than trying to "optimize my dosing"


> With health care being tax funded in regions, I dont want to pay for smokers bad health.

> 2nd - price hike on snacks, chips, nuts, chocolate, "pick n mix" candy, sugar candy

I love being proven right.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47848115


Its not happening but it is my whishlist.

Sweden does not have a sugar tax but Norway does, they go over the border to buy candy.

The big limit here is alcohol, over 3.5% is only able to be sold in special regulated stores https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systembolaget

I assume you are american, must be very blackpilling to visit Sweden. Imagine living in a functional democracy and society where things work like public transport and holidays.

https://youtu.be/xrTTIYd2OyY?si=3ZVicQxgxzXhu4s9&t=27


I am American and I visited Stockholm for a week last year. It was nice and pretty but boy oh boy was it stifling. Copenhagen was way more relaxed by comparison.


Scandinavia overall then, substitute that for Sweden in general :)


I am American, I have never visited Sweden but I have visited Norway. The taxes on normal everyday things like food were as high as 25% and everyone I talked to expressed interest in America, either visiting or living there. I only know one person who moved from America to a Nordic country (Denmark) and she complained that everyone was racist and that it took several months to get an appointment for a root canal, during that time she just had to live with severe pain. I have zero desire to live in any Nordic country.


Those people were always lying, it was always about power dynamics. People hated DRM and surveillance because they saw it as punching down. People now hate AI wielded by corpos because they see it as punching down. Extremely few (if any) people ever bought into the “cyber-utopia” thing and now the mask has completely come off, everyone knows the Internet is a tool for subjugation


Natural consequence of socialized medicine. If I’m paying for your healthcare then I (and by extension the state) get a say in basically every aspect of your life.

Time to ban alcohol, marijuana, Tylenol, fatty foods, sugar, candles, campfires, fireworks, food coloring, bicycles, playgrounds, cars, cell phones, and anything else that might be harmful


In the UK tobacco is heavily taxed and those taxes bring in more money than the cost on the healthcare service.


Interesting - do you have a link about the financial accounting around this?


If you google it, revenue is at £8 billion (Office for Budget Responsibility) and in decline, and NHS spending is at £2.6 billion in England, so the bulk of it (NHS England).


I do not have the specific info/ref to hand, but at one point some years ago, smoking brought in something of the order of nine times as much into the NHS as it spent on smoking related illnesses. I was very surprised by this.


Even so, the NHS's goals are rightly such that greatly reducing the harm done by smoking is preferred over keeping this revenue. Unlike a tobacco company that would not factor harms external to the organisation into the profit and loss calculation.


You can not put a price on human suffering.


Tylenol is much less dangerous than, say, Advil. It’s only issue is one of overdose which is common to all drugs.


I think you might be missing the point I was trying to make


Don't worry they're working on banning most of those. The UK has a sugar tax and will ban fires (God forbid people are energy independent!)

You could throw in skate boards, pornography, slate roofs, criticising government policy and the policy, gluten, and chewing gum.


Enjoy setting up a GoFundMe if you ever get cancer.


Let us look at the cancer survival rates in the US vs countries with socialized medicine. I know for a fact when the business elite of my Euro country gets cancer they fly to NY. They don't pay taxes either tho so I guess it works for them.


The other natural consequence of socialized medicine is rationing. In Canada the waiting time for treatment is often months or years[1]. That GoFundMe might give you a higher survival rate.

[1] https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/more-than-23000-canadi...


Wait until you see how many people die from waiting for medical care they care afford in the US!


> Natural consequence of socialized medicine.

improved health outcomes?


It is malicious, and you shouldn’t be downvoted for calling out someone who is so obviously arguing in bad faith.


There was never any security risk, the flight data was and is public information. You should be able to say “men are not women” and also repost public data. Stop pretending Elon cares about free speech.


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