And what about East Fracia, or even the Carolingian Empire itself? Austria & Germany together.
That's the thing with this history stuff, it's rarely as clear cut, nor are today's examples (e.g. modern Germany, EU) totally relevant for examples of the past.
That's the thing with this history stuff, it's rarely as clear cut, nor are today's examples (e.g. modern Germany, EU) totally relevant for examples of the past.