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> We could learn from our allies in Ukraine. Give them capital and manufacturing bases in America.

That is happening, only with "EU" not "America". Because the EU are Ukraine's allies.

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-to-open-10-weapons-expor...

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-to-open-arms-factory...

https://euobserver.com/209049/eu-signs-off-on-e260m-grant-fo...

As for the US being Ukrainian allies as compared to EU, well: https://kyivindependent.com/us-military-aid-to-ukraine-dropp...



I think the majority of Americans are on Ukraine's side but of course the president has other ideas. The UK has some Ukranian drone manufacturing going on https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0dvjwygk1o


> I think the majority of Americans are on Ukraine's side but of course the president has other ideas.

I think that it's understood that when we use shorthand such as "US is not supporting Ukraine" that it is the respective governments that we are discussing. The point about the "majority of Americans" is true enough (though you might say that the majority of Americans care about the price of gasoline and groceries and little else politically) but it is rather irrelevant if the administration does the opposite.

In other words, "thoughts and prayers from people" is not enough to make you an ally. Money and policy is the real thing.


Yeah though most of the US government excluding Trump is pro Ukraine. Biden at least gave some weapons and Lindsey Graham pushed a tough sanctions package which was working quite well until stopped due to the Iran invasion.




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